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Smithtown Library Trustee and Budget Vote

Smithtown residents will vote Tuesday on the proposed budget and choose from four candidates for two open trustee spots.

 

The Smithtown Special Library District will hold its budget vote and trustee election on Tuesday from 10:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m.

 The proposed tax levy is estimated to increase $8.34 annually for the average assessed house in the Town of Smithtown. According to library officials,  this increase is within the limits of the New York State tax cap. By allocating monies from earlier fund balances, the library can meet anticipated budget needs for operational costs and mandated New York State expenses while observing the property tax cap.

Currently the average household pays $291.25 annually in library taxes. That number, if the budget is passed, will increase to $299.59.

A copy of the budget can be found in the photo gallery section of this story.

Four candidates are vying for two trustee seats.

Rosalind Palazzolo of St. James, Wayne J. Schaefer of Smithtown, Suzanne Mohr of Smithtown and incumbent John C. Martins will run. Trustee Charles Sauer is not seeking re-election. A list of candidate bios can be found here.

All residents in the Town of Smithtown are assigned a home branch of the library at which to vote. Any resident may vote at any of the open buildings; however, voters who choose not to go to their home branch will vote by paper ballot, not machine. To find out where to vote, click here.

Pam October 09, 2012 at 10:57 AM
It's not the estimated $8.34 increase that people need to pay attention to . It's the $9.7 million for salaries/benefits-and $3.6 million for everything else.
NuYawker October 09, 2012 at 12:08 PM
Do you people see that wer'e spending almost $10million/year on salaries and benefits to the library system. To put this into perspective, we shut down Nesconset elementary, practically the oldest school in the state, and upended the lives of thousands of families, all to save a mere $1 million/year or so. I say we shut down the whole wasteful library system and give the money back to the schools. If someone's buying a house here, nobody's asking about the libraries, they're asking about our schools. How did we let this happen?
GTV October 09, 2012 at 01:32 PM
$300 a year per family / $10mil a year for buildings with shelves to store books? In the 21st century everything there is available online and you will spend less than $300 for your family to get it. A library is as outdated as 8 track or cassette
John K Massaro October 09, 2012 at 01:44 PM
What about families that DON'T have access to computers? What about older couples who DON'T own a computer? Over 30% of Americans don't even own a computer, did you ever think of that? What about people who DON'T have $300 to shell out for that information? The library is more than just "a building with shelves to store books". Open your mind a little bit & do your research, you might learn something. The computer monitor will NEVER replace the printed page. I can't believe people can be so closed-minded & tight-walleted about education. People like that actually annoy me...
Kristie M October 09, 2012 at 01:50 PM
Parking lots of almost all libraries are full for good reason. It's not all free on the internet. You get what you pay for. If you think RandyKillsJobs wait until kids with no ability to discern an actual fact from what a random blogger posts enter the workforce in droves. Valuable government and university Web sites are "free," but those are tax dollars at work. While it's clear from a lot of posts that lifetime learning is not everyone's priority, a good library system benefits communities and encourages exploration and reading with experts (librarians) ready to help. Full disclosure: I'm a corporate librarian and am shocked by what seemingly educated people blindly accept as fact because they read it on the internet.
GTv October 09, 2012 at 02:02 PM
For $10 mil a year you could buy everyone who doesn't have one a computer if you wanted to. I, and I'm sure many others, don't have $300/ yr year after year to shell out to save someone else from buying a computer. You want books? Store them in a cheap building with a drive thru window or open school libraries to the public if its about education.
Diana October 09, 2012 at 02:12 PM
Libraries are important but it seems they are becoming less about books and reading materials and more about the meeting spaces and computer terminals. If we are not careful we will be spending way too much in taxpayer dollars. How much of the budget goes to mandatory employee benefits and pension costs? Are library workers unionized? If so why must they be I am sure many in the community would work at the library for less or even volunteer.
Diana October 09, 2012 at 02:24 PM
I just read the budget..almost $9 million in salaries and benefits and $696K in Libarary materials and programs. That seems out of balance to me.
John K Massaro October 09, 2012 at 02:30 PM
Okay, so now you're supporting a form of "socialism" on a national scale but limited to computers for every home? I'm sure the right wing would go along with that plan without a problem. NOT! They're raising a big stink over handing out $20 emergency cell phones & you want to hand out $300 computers? And how would you suppose those who couldn't afford the computer in the first place would be able to afford a monthly internet service bill?
GTV October 09, 2012 at 03:01 PM
No sir, I am not supporting that at all. I am saying get rid of libraries completely and stop having the government spend money on them. If you don't have a computer, unfortunately that is your problem. There are many avenues to get a computer on your own - get a donated one, buy one at best buy interest free for 3 years, etc. Government needs to be out of everyone's lives, worry about defense and infrastructure and that's it. People can handle the rest on their own.
NuYawker October 09, 2012 at 03:21 PM
@Kristie M - parking lots full? In 2012, libraries have become places where stay-at-home soccer Moms use it as a place to babysit their already over-privileged brats, and pedophiles go to use anonymous internet. I see in that budget there's not much spent on actual 'Books', yet we're spending $9.7 million/year in salaries for people to babysit recycled dead trees. The concept of a Library sounds good on the surface, if we were back in the heydays of a good economy. My problem is how they sneakily got their bloated budget passed in the virtual dead of night, while we're closing schools (Nesconset) that could have been saved with just a fraction of the yearly Library budget. And you can see by my label that I am by no means a tea-party RWNJ. I'm for improving our schools. It's good for the kids, it's good for our collective property values. You, however, being a 'Librarian' yourself cannot be expected to objectively weigh in on this subject, since you live in your own reality, where municipalities (and companies) still need librarians.
NuYawker October 09, 2012 at 03:41 PM
@John K Massaro. you bring up a good point about access for poorer people, but I do not believe this is a 'socialist' thing, we're just talking about 'better' ways to spend the money, GT also brings up good point regarding opening school libraries for public use, I know my kids' school libraries could have used a $4miln makeover, they're complete crap-holes. Have you been to any school functions in May or June and had to sit through suffocating heat and humidity because we can't afford maintenance on the Air Conditioning in the schools? So instead, we have a nice, new babysitting place for the pampered, Stay-at-Home Soccer-Moms to take their kids. Next budget, they'll want money for cappuccino machines (if they don't have them already).
John K Massaro October 09, 2012 at 03:49 PM
"That's thier problem"? Really? That's going to be your argument? Basically, if you're poor, your lack of education is your own problem? Do you realize how utterly stupid you sound? Honestly dude, I'm actually embarrassed FOR you... Here I thought I was debating with an intelligent person. My bad. Carry on with your ignorance.
John K Massaro October 09, 2012 at 04:09 PM
No, actually YOU'RE talking about spending the money in better avenues, this ignorant idiot above is actually talking about keeping the less fortunate in lower education because it's "thier problem". That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard of in my life! I'm not saying that perhaps they over-spent, I'm sure they did. But to say we should completely do away with the library system is imbecelic. You're worried about comfort luxuries such as air conditioning as opposed to education? As for your "soccer mom" theory, you're completely wrong. Come down to my library on a weekend where most educational programs are standing room only. I myself take my son to the library every other Saturday where we both either take out books or participate in some program or another. He enjoys going to the library, he enjoys learning. A thirst for knowledge is not something I wish to discourage my son from for the sake of air conditioned classrooms or "not my problem" idiocy...
GTV October 09, 2012 at 04:31 PM
Wow, what a rant. Seems like taking away your FREE saturday morning book club touched a nerve. Amazing how you twist one topic into a whole twisted illogical view that is pretty hard to follow. Are you poor? If not, what are you doing at the library and if so why do you have a computer? We pay dearly for education in our schools. I as a working class person would rather have the tax money to fix my teeth since my dental insurance is limited rather than spend it on a library that is hardly used. How about pay as you go - you shouldn't have a problem with that, they do it for the town beaches and boat ramps. Oh wait you would, cause it wouldnt be free for you or would not sustain itself because of non use.
John K Massaro October 09, 2012 at 04:38 PM
I'm thru talking with you. I don't attempt intelligent conversations with low-watt fools. It's a waste of my time... "Do not argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." - Mark Twain.
Jeff October 09, 2012 at 04:47 PM
Thank you. Go haunt another blog and leave the comments hear to the mature and rational. And yes, Mark Twain was right about people like you. Get a Kindle you Knucklehead
SmithtownResident October 09, 2012 at 04:47 PM
JUST VOTE NO!!
GTV October 09, 2012 at 04:56 PM
So true. What will happen if you vote NO, will they have to reduce staff? Wouldn't that be terrible. $10 mil for staff and $3mil for everything else.
John K Massaro October 09, 2012 at 04:58 PM
Jeff needs to chime in with a childish bully rant & then use the term, "Mature & Rational". LMAO! Now THAT's funny, in a "I'm an immature, self-important, hypocrite tool" sort of way. Well I apologize. I didn't realize you people are afraid of books. You know, the ones you don't get to color in. Or giving your children every chance they can get at learning something new every day & feeding their brains. Again I say, carry on with your ignorance. Don't let me stand in the way of your your utter stupidity. I'll be the at the library, feeding my thirst for learning & making sure my child isn't as apparantly dumb as you two low-watts are...
John K Massaro October 09, 2012 at 05:02 PM
I'll be voting "Yes"...
GTV October 09, 2012 at 05:29 PM
JKM- I thought we were rid of you. Are you typing on a library computer or do you shamefully own your own when others out there are less fortunate. There are plenty of books for sale at B & Noble, Borders, Target, costco and other stores, why dont you go buy one and support the industry you claim to love so much. Oh, I forgot because you want everyone in the town to pay $300 so you can read for free. Then you have the gall to say the library system is in place for the poor. why are you stealing their services?
John K Massaro October 09, 2012 at 05:33 PM
I'll let you have the last word, dude. It's apparant your simple, uneducated little mind finds it more important than I do. So go right ahead. Get it in now...
Argile October 09, 2012 at 08:24 PM
Randykillsjobs you should change your name to TimBishopkilledLongIsland. Have you even been to any of the libraries? I'm betting NO. Got news for ya, print is not dead. How would I know this? I actually go to the Nesconset library. And give the school district the money?! LMAO! Taxes have doubled for many and even tripled for some and the school district is still crying poverty. If anything should be voted down it's the school budget.
Retired October 09, 2012 at 08:33 PM
Interesting article for all those Patch readers interested in the School Districts.. http://commack.patch.com/blog_posts/is-the-commack-school-district-violating-the-public-meetings-law#comments_list
Nesconset Dude October 09, 2012 at 08:56 PM
@Kristie M - You are 100% correct about libraries, even though you are biased. The public should have full access to all forms of literature at any time, and that doesn't count the internet. I see the Nesconset library very active when I bring my daughter to the park, so it can't be said to be a waster of money. I do agree, though, that Nesconset Elementary should not have been closed; St. James Elementary would have been a much better target (trolling statement).... ;)
Nesconset Dude October 09, 2012 at 09:02 PM
@John K Massaro - Just ignore them, it's not worth engaging the happily ignorant who would rather take a lowest-common-denominator approach with their mis-informed opinions. Now libraries are the problem. What's next? Playgrounds and parks? Public swimming pools? A library never dragged down anyone's property value.
John K Massaro October 09, 2012 at 09:33 PM
You're absolutely right, dude. It just boggles the mind how one could actually be AGAINST education...
Nesconset Dude October 09, 2012 at 11:47 PM
Perhaps it's one that also lacks an education.......

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