Vecchio: Kings Park Businesses Should Buy Their Own Parking

Town board split on purchasing land for municipal parking after hearing price tag.

A screenshot from Google Streetview of the wooded lot the town board is split over possibly purchasing to create additional municipal parking in Kings Park.
A screenshot from Google Streetview of the wooded lot the town board is split over possibly purchasing to create additional municipal parking in Kings Park.
Smithtown Supervisor Patrick Vecchio has changed his mind on creating a new municipal parking lot off Kings Park's Main Street after hearing the potential price tag. 

Smithtown officials had the town attorney inquire into the price of a wooded lot on Pulaski Road, behind Park Bake Shop, for the purpose of creating more municipal parking for downtown Kings Park after their Nov. 21 work session.

The price of the project -  a hefty $279,000 for the land not including paving.

Vecchio, who initially voiced support for the project, announced his change of heart on Thursday. 

"It seems to me to spend that type of money to benefit two entities who have their own obligation, if they want to increase the patrons going into their business then its their responsibility to purchase the lot," he said. 

Vecchio said he felt the creation of parking on Pulaski Road would largely benefit Park Bake Shop and a diner across the road. 

"We do have 600 people how have indicated they would like to see a town public parking lot there in form of petitions," Creighton said, to a petition he received from residents in November. 

If the town were to purchase the wooded lot, Creighton had estimated the town would be able to create an additional 21-22 parking spaces. The town board briefly also discussed possibly making the lot metered parking to prevent all-day parking by store employees. 

"I do think that particular parking lot would not just service the two owners but a number of businesses that are up there and the people. We do have a lack of municipal parking," Creighton said. "It is an expense but it is something we should really consider. "

Creighton's comments echo the sentiments of Tony Tanzi, president of Kings Park Chamber of Commerce, about the proposed parking. 

"It’s like anything is better than what we have," Tanzi said to Patch in November. "There is at time parking issues on that end of town, there are some successful businesses that need the parking." 

However, Vecchio said the creation of additional town parking lot would be unfair to other taxplayers. 

" I don't want to pay for a parking lot for a business. I don't think I would support the people in Smithtown or St. James and Hauppauge paying for a parking lot in Kings Park," he said. 

No decision or actions was taken at the town board's Thursday morning work session. The issue will be further discussed at a future town board meetings. 

woodrow January 25, 2014 at 09:38 AM
Supervisor Vecchio is correct,It is refreshing to for once hear good sense from government.The price of the lot is high to begin with and will also have to be maintained by the town in the future causing further taxes
KPNY January 25, 2014 at 02:00 PM
Great question Dan...maybe the patch can reach out to Tony Tanzi...he must know who the owner is...or maybe mr. Creighton. That sounds like way to much money for an out of the way lot. Kings park does not need another municipal lot anyway.
Michael J. Rosati Sr. January 25, 2014 at 02:40 PM
Why not move ALL of the stores into a mini mall on the Psychiatric Center property? Then Main Street could be expanded; the mini mall would draw business for every store owner and parking would be abundant. And security would be less of an issue.
Diane January 25, 2014 at 04:33 PM
The lot littered with debris and an eye sore. Any change would be an improvement!
woodrow January 25, 2014 at 06:33 PM
most parking lots are littered with debris and eyesores. leave the last few trees still standing in this town.you could always take a few hours and clean it up
knee jerk January 25, 2014 at 06:58 PM
Smithtown officials changed their minds after the election? Who'd have guessed?
Diane January 26, 2014 at 08:54 AM
@Woodrow: I have given many volunteer hours cleaning up not on Kings Park but many of the surrounding parks, beaches and public use properties. Hopefully you can say the same!
John Nobles January 26, 2014 at 10:46 AM
Anyone who thinks this should still be a priority please call Pat Vecchio everyday or whenever you can't get a parking spot on the west end of Kings Park. His number is: 631-360-7500 His email is: supervisor@tosgov.com
woodrow January 26, 2014 at 11:07 AM
@Diane, I have also cleaned up areas but it seems fruitless sometimes because the dumping is neverending.The owner of that lot has cleaned it multiple times only for trash to find its way there again. In the future I will take my own advice and go there and pick up some trash
Paul January 26, 2014 at 11:48 AM
John, you have a vested interest in that land being a parking lot since your business resides next door. It seems most people agree that the purchase and maintenance by the town is not in the best interest of ALL tax payers. It would be better off being made into a passive park then a parking lot.
knee jerk January 26, 2014 at 12:26 PM
I will never use that parking lot since I don't live or shop in Kings Park. However, I do live in the Township of Smithtown and my taxes will help pay for it. My taxes also pay for other perks in Smithtown which I never use, like that golf course and boat ramps. So do many others in the town pay for perks they don't use. If the town board is sincere about revitalizing the downtowns (and not just Smithtown proper) this is a good place to start. Or the board could continue with it's "nothing can be done" policy and we can all watch the decline.
John Nobles January 26, 2014 at 03:34 PM
I do have an invested interest in KP----I put my business here because I love this place and the people! With the comments mentioned above by Pat Vecchio they should take out all the municipal lots and plant trees(like the one across from the firehouse)... This "part of" the Town of Smithtown needs help-----not just 2 entities----there are 8+ businesses on these 4 corners.....WAKE UP PAT!!! IT IS AWESOME THAT YOU CHANGED YOUR STANCE ONCE YOU WERE RE-ELECTED!!!!
Sick and tired January 26, 2014 at 06:05 PM
If he (Vecchio) changed his stance post-election because he learned after the election that the price tag was too high, then it seems grossly unfair to attack him for his position. It might be a good idea to have additional parking, but the price seems rather steep.
knee jerk January 26, 2014 at 07:09 PM
Can't the town board come up with some creative way to acquire that sorry patch of land? No one would want to build a house there and it looks too small to place a business there. Besides, where would anyone PARK if there was one there? It appears it could ONLY be used for a parking lot.This brings us full circle, back to the town board. Write the owner a summons' for not cleaning up the lot on a regular basis. Why not try to lease the property or claim eminent domain. It's not like you're trying to condemn someone's home (except for those couple of vagrants that use it for a toilet).How about a new slogan for the new town board "Something can be done".
John Nobles January 26, 2014 at 08:12 PM
EMINENT DOMAIN is what they should do here. It satisfies all the requirements and then the town would only have to pay reasonable compensation for the property. Not what the owner thinks its worth.....this owner has NEVER done one single thing to maintain the property. Smithtown should take the property. It would help thousands of residents who shop on the west end of town.
KPLifer January 27, 2014 at 08:21 AM
Bob C sued the business owners and then he want s to buy land for them? And nobody has a problem with that? I don't want my tax dollars wasted on a parking lot that will benefit a minimal amount a businesses. Let the bakery owner buy it if she thinks she needs it. Kings Park has more parking than any other small town around. Walk! And stop being lazy! Go to Nassau county where almost all parking is by paid meters.
KPNY January 27, 2014 at 08:39 AM
Who owns the lot? Who are the adjacent or beneficiary business owners? Let's get a clear picture of what is really going on here. Give us a real story PATCH!
Maddalena McKee January 27, 2014 at 10:51 AM
Did anyone try to negotiate the price ? The businesses at that end of town have no parking. With parking at both ends of town people might actually park and walk to the shops... oh wait most of the shops on Main St. are closed because of the lack of foot traffic and parking..... It is a shame that our Supervisor has never cared about our Main St. Kings Park Main St. Should be a jewel not just a poor cousin to Smithtown Main St. Wi
knee jerk January 28, 2014 at 07:55 AM
"I don't think I would support the people in Smithtown or St. James and Hauppauge by paying for a parking lot in Kings Park". Again, Commack is the bastard stepchild in Smithtown, not even getting honorable mention.
KPLifer January 28, 2014 at 07:56 AM
There is no parking problem in Kings Park.. There is a lazy problem! Get out and take a walk. We have hundreds of spots at the train station and by the library.
knee jerk January 28, 2014 at 09:56 AM
Good thought. I think I'll go down and grab one of those empty spots at the train station and walk up to the bakery on the other side of town for one of their delicious apple turnovers and a cup of coffee.
Anne Kash January 28, 2014 at 02:49 PM
As a member of the Lucien Memorial United Methodist Church, on Main St., across from the bakery...I have complaints about the parking problem. Employees of Relish continue to park in our parking lot (even after we spoke to the owner) and in formed him it is PRIVATE PARKING LOT...not public and use the shopping center to us. We did enter into an agreement with The Park Bake Shop owner that 4-6 employees could park in our PRIVATE LOT(donation made), and signage in their cars so we know who they are. We serve the community by having other functions here at our church. All of which are permitted to park here. We also have issues with the Dance Studio located next to the Laundromat....how hard is to honor our request NOT to park in our lot. I suppose everyone thinks just because it has no cars in it they can use it...well...that ain't so my dear Kings Parkers. If this was the Catholic church I doubt they would park there. We are having to purchase NO PARKING signs because of this problem. It is not just the Bakery and Relish that need the extra parking...there is a Nail Salon and a Hair Business and Fish Market and Tackle Store...not to mention the Chinese Restaurant and the now empty Creamery. These businesses also need employee and customer parking. This end of Kings Park needs the towns help with this situation. thanks for reading my rant Be Blessed
KPLifer January 28, 2014 at 03:58 PM
The TOS doesnt need to do anything. If the business owners want to create a wonderful shopping experience, they can purchase and expand the parking lot.
knee jerk January 28, 2014 at 04:17 PM
Yes. and if the now empty Creamery were to be turned into a massage parlor, this problem could have a "happy" ending.
KPLifer January 29, 2014 at 07:18 AM
It might be the best thing to help out all the uptight tight asses in town
Homer Newton January 30, 2014 at 09:56 PM
They should demolish that place and put a planned parenthood there b/c those kids are doing the do way too much
knee jerk January 31, 2014 at 07:42 PM
Where would the parents doing the planning park?
Anne Kash January 31, 2014 at 08:47 PM
I think you all are out of hand...for some of us, this serious. For most you NIMBYS...you could care less...typical Kings Park
knee jerk February 01, 2014 at 08:06 AM
No Anne, this is not about NIMBYS, this is about the supervisor doing a Texas Two Step after the election and saying NIYBY (Not In Your Backyard). "Nothing Can Be Done"
pam king February 04, 2014 at 08:26 AM
Sorry but I am totally against this idea. The initial cost of $269000 is only the begining, how much will it be to clear and level that land,next the cost of paving, then the striping of the lines and the upkeep. Who is going to keep it clean, what about the insurance cost in case someone falls or the cost of snow removal. Will there be lights to insure safety especially in the winter when it gets dark early. Who does the enforcement if we put up signs for 1 hour parking. Don't forget cost of signage It sure sounds like much money spent for bakery and restaurant parking or probably for employee parking because there is no one to enforce the town laws all the time. Its time for the business' that would benefit to buy it not the taxpayers!


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