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Pedestrian Crossing Sign Vanishes Days After Installed

Town says sign is being replaced amid local concern about pedestrian safety.

Of the two pedestrian crossing signs installed last week on Main Street, only one remains.

“I would venture to say it was stolen,” said Smithtown town councilman Robert Creighton.

According to Creighton the signs were put in place at the request of residents who complained that drivers on Main Street were not stopping to let pedestrians cross and because it was a dangerous crossing. But only days after installed, one sign disappeared.

Each sign cost more than $300. Creighton says the sign is being replaced and is on order.

Creighton says they obtained permission from the state Department of Transportation to install the signs, but the state does not share the cost.

Local resident Diane Tabone told Patch in an email that she was glad the signs were installed, but was disappointed that one was already missing.

“What a shame.  It really does slow down traffic and make a safer walk for all of us,” said Tabone.

Gabe Hamill, owner of Main Street Pizza says the bright green sign had been hit several times in it's short stint on Main Street.

“Everyone who is leaving Carlson and making a left onto Main kept hitting it. ... Go figure. Lucky they aren’t pedestrians,” said Hamill.

Hamill thinks the signs are needed and are a good idea.

“I think I need a six-pack of them to keep putting out. They can drop me off a dozen. Maybe sooner or later people will slow down,” he said.

According to Tony Cannone, traffic engineer for the town of Smithtown, these signs are the first of their kind to be used in Smithtown. The signs, which weigh about 25-30lbs. sit on the road and are made to be temporarily installed.

"Based on what I know about traffic safety, it makes no sense that the signs would have been destroyed,"

Cannone said according to the manufacturer specifications, the signs are made to withstand impact and are expected to be impacted at times. Cannone, who installed the signs on Main Street said that he thinks the sign was stolen.

"It was gone within 24-48 hours after I put it up. The other one is still there and in pristine condition," said Cannone.

The town has made similar attempts in Smithtown to try to remedy an unsafe Main Street that has gone from not just unsafe but deadly with three fatalities on that stretch of road in just under 24 months.

Measures such as installing a fence to prevent jaywalking and reducing the green phase of traffic lights to allow pedestrians more time to cross have been implemented. In June,

Hamill says cars often speed by and don’t stop for pedestrians in the crosswalk and hopes it won’t take a death to get change implemented.

“People don’t get it. It is a state law that is not enforced, like talking on your cell phone,” said Hamill.

Charlie Gardner October 13, 2011 at 05:27 PM
The Chamber of Commerce worked with Councilman Creighton on this project. It's disappointing that the sign has been stolen. It is certainly a help in "calming" the traffic. Gabe's comments are right on point. Maybe we can install a camera and catch the next idiot who attempts to steal the replacement sign.
lisa costello October 13, 2011 at 06:43 PM
there is alot of stealing going on in kings park,and vandalism.where are those very well paid police?
Ken Wiebke October 13, 2011 at 08:35 PM
I'd venture someone with a little too much beer or an adolescent testosterone rush, or both, decided it would blend in well with their Mom's basement decor.
Anne Salazar October 14, 2011 at 12:07 AM
$300 for a little plastic sign? Either you need a new buyer for your town or the sign company stole it
Eileen Madden October 14, 2011 at 01:34 AM
I sugest that all pedesteran crossing's should have a flashing light, I've seen them work very well in England.
WS October 14, 2011 at 04:14 AM
Hopefully nobody will steal the new sign, knowing the town of Smithtown they will install 5 unnecessary stop signs on Main street. Smithtown loves stop signs.
diane tabone October 14, 2011 at 11:37 AM
I believe these sign are considered "temporary" and the news ones will be permanently affixed to the roadway.
Dave Adams October 14, 2011 at 02:02 PM
I was happy to see the signs and the fact that cars were actually stopping to let people cross. It's a shame one has gone missing but I don't think you can bolt them to the street. I also don't see why the state cannot kick in some cash. It's a state road. One other issue is drivers apparently thinking you have to stop for them even if on-one is in the crosswalk, which is not the case.
larry October 14, 2011 at 02:10 PM
they should have camera's and just ticket the cars traffic in kp is bad jeez i remember hangin out in front of bob's luncenette on say afternoon and a car did not pass for 45 min man im old and smithtown the cars are doing 50 mph going west at 5 pm thats bad
Florette Small October 14, 2011 at 02:59 PM
There are more dangerous situations! There should be left hand turn signals at Lawrence and 25A and at Indian Head and 25A! Crossing is an adventure. Making left hand turns with your car is "guts driving."
Dave Adams October 14, 2011 at 03:25 PM
@Florette - Feel free to email the town traffic safety department. Here is a link to email all the town departments: http://www.smithtowninfo.com/templateproc.cfm?PageID=321 I email them all the time about the street lights that are broken in my neighborhood, some of them on all the time wasting our tax dollars and some of them never on creating a hazard at nighttime. They are usually quick to respond and fix problems I've identified. The left turn signals might take a lot longer but if EVERYONE talked to them about it, the process might move along quicker.
diane tabone October 14, 2011 at 09:03 PM
Second one missing as of the morning of 10/14/11! Stolen too?
Jennifer Sloat (Editor) October 14, 2011 at 09:11 PM
Thanks for the update Diane. If we hear anything we will let you know.
janet k. October 15, 2011 at 03:06 AM
Appears we have a serial sign thief in this community. The sign thieves maybe the same brazen crew that stole hundreds of dollars of Democratic campaign signs last week. I thought Creighton was on the job watching out for us. Guess he was napping. Oh well....
diane tabone October 15, 2011 at 11:40 AM
@Janet...cheap shot. Point your anger towards the ones who apparently stole it, not the one who tried to improve the pedestrian safety situation.
scott mckinnon October 15, 2011 at 07:20 PM
we actually saw the kids steal the sign.and gave the cops the license plate number of the first one that was stolen.maybe someone can see exactly what happened with the new video cameras installed at the park.just a thought
GabrieL hamill October 16, 2011 at 01:21 AM
Perhaps we need to get signs that say stop for thieves in crosswalk!
sally murray October 16, 2011 at 04:19 PM
OMG -- $300 for a "plastic Sign" 4 signs X $300.00 = $1,200 ridiculous! Creighton / Werheim know how to waste the Towns Tax Money. Very curious to learn: Did the signs go out for “competitive bid” or to a Creighton / Werheim friendly donor? Why we need to investigate this; I contacted -3- independent sign manufacture's and they all replied; these "small street sign" should cost approximately $65 - $125 or less. Not $300 per sign as authorized by Creighton & Werheim. Just another Horrible Example of political disregard for Tax Payer Dollars. Can't wait for election day 11-8-2011 and vote for new fiscal conservative candidates. Smithtown needs to get rid of the "Double Dipping DUO" Creighton & Werheim who are Gaming the Government System $115,000 (each) for their personal gain. ($60,000 pensions & $55,000 Council Pay per person) I hope every one who reads this is outraged when political pros over pay for little plastic signs and waste your tax payer dollars? It's YOUR MONEY being WASTED!!! This is why taxes go up and you can afford new things.
kp watchman October 17, 2011 at 02:52 PM
don't blame me i did NOT vote for Werheim he has no formal education for what he dose
Rubba November 17, 2011 at 12:28 PM
Two signs do nothing for safety. Installing a fence on 10% of Main St does nothing. Reducing the green phase of traffic lights and a single lane makes for congestion and inconveniences those of us who live here, nothing more. Schumer needs to make sure the SMITHTOWN BYPASS PROJECT is done right and serves it's intended purpose. Obviously, 50 years ago, somebody knew Main Street would have traffic issues and built the road.

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