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Interactive Map: Problem Stop Signs in Kings Park

We took user comments to make this interactive map of stop signs that seem more optional that they should be. Add suggestions for ones we may have missed.

 

Last week we asked readers to point out the and the result was dozens of comments and concerns about this unsafe situation in town.

To put the discussion in perspective, we've plotted all of your suggestions on a map. Take a look and let us know if there are any more we need to add. We'll keep this updated.

Barbara August 20, 2012 at 12:33 PM
Might as well add a comment as to where we could use a stop sign, traffic light or ? ...at the interesection of Meadow Road West and First Avenue where it is difficult and dangerous to make a left turn onto First Avenue from Meadow Road where visibility and fast moving vehicles make the left turn difficult. It doesn't help that the residence on the northeast corner needs to trim back brush.
Margaret August 20, 2012 at 01:26 PM
Yes, the intersection of Aspen and Woodland is really dangerous. It needs to be a four-way stop. With the new day care center's cars parked along Woodland, visibility is extremely limited. Will it take an accident to make the town convert this into a four-way stop intersection?
Scott Ray August 20, 2012 at 01:31 PM
You can add 8th Avenue and Mapleview Place to the map as well.
Sally Hogeman August 20, 2012 at 01:45 PM
It is not a stop sign problem, but when the light at Old Commack Road and Pulaski Road turns green to allow left turns, the light visible from the stop sign at Cedar Street remains red, giving the driver at Cedar Street the impression that oncoming traffic is stopped. That, plus untrimmed hedges to the left makes a dangerous situation.
justmyopinion August 20, 2012 at 02:52 PM
ypu can add a stop sign at Windham Cresent and Rumford Road (on Rumford). Peope fly down from Ware place which they dont stop and its like a free way!!!!
Daniel Tobias August 20, 2012 at 04:06 PM
I have a list of them, Primrose & Cactus, Primrose & Amapola, Rumford & Columbine, Rumford & Clover, Rumford & Cosmo........the list can go on and on until the Suffolk County P.D. stops guarding the firehouse 24hrs a day and starts enforcing the vehicle and traffic laws.
Anne August 20, 2012 at 04:12 PM
Lawrence and Boxwood Drive. I've noticed three and four cars in succession completely ignoring the stop signs. An accident waiting to happen... could of saved the taxpayers money for all the good the signs do. Apparently those drivers feel the signs don't apply to them.
Carol Haubeil August 20, 2012 at 05:07 PM
Add all of the stop signs on Juniper Road in Kings Park. Even though it is a posted 30mph zone everyone thinks there are no signs and the limit is 60 mph. This is a residential area with a passel of kids. SLOW DOWN. If you are late for the train, leave earlier.
Amy S. August 20, 2012 at 05:07 PM
Cusick Ave & Kings Hwy. It's in the middle of a small neighborhood that even the residents on the block fly through without even tapping the brakes. Yesterday I saw my neighbor across the street sail through it and almost hit another neighbors kid on a razor scooter!
Florette Small August 20, 2012 at 10:14 PM
Kings Park (as a matter of fact Smithtown) should have left-hand traffic turn signals. Left-hand turns are the dangerous turns. That's when accidents regularly happen. Certainly one should be at Meadow and 25A! The traffic is unending there...and drivers take chances because they get tired of waiting.
melissa August 20, 2012 at 11:36 PM
Twin Oaks and Heather Dr is the WORST. I cannot tell you how many times I have come to a stop at Heather, waiting to turn onto Twin Oaks. NO ONE at the Twin Oaks signs in either direction, I begin to pull out and proceed only to almost be T-Boned by someone coming down Twin Oaks. I have called the cops for years bc it happens SO frequently.
kathie plant August 21, 2012 at 12:07 AM
I agree with Melissa - Twin Oaks and Heather is a disaster! Also, something should be done about that wacky traffic light situation at the intersection of the Ace Hardware/Rite Aid parking lot and Indian Head Rd. You can sit in the parking lot waiting for a blinking light, and after traffic is stopped in all directions and you're sitting there forever staring at each other, Indian Head gets a green and you get a blinking light. Genius! Also, with Sunken Meadow Rd. being light-free from Old Dock Rd. to 25A, people fly at anywhere from 30-60 miles per hour. There should be a light by Twin Oaks Dr. and/or Kohr Rd. because there are a few accidents each year by the sharp turn just east of Kohr. I know, I live near there and run out to accident scenes constantly, since there's no cell reception and the people need assistance.
J August 21, 2012 at 01:45 AM
Where I grew up, no one runs or rolls through stop signs; to do so would score you a ticket. Where are the cops around here?
KP LIslander August 21, 2012 at 04:15 AM
The police don't enforce the law pertaining to people blowing through stop signs, nor people driving while texting, nor driving while talking on a cell phone that isn't hands free, nor going after aggressive drivers adequately enough, nor doing anything about people parking on roads & trespassing in the Psych Center at night despite knowing full well where they typically park when going into the Psych Center and knowing that they could catch them if they so chose to do so. I guess that trying to go after individuals doing these things must be more problematic and difficult to do, so instead they would rather just go after those doing things that takes less effort to prove such as speeding or no seat belts. But yet I see them regularly parked at the firehouse, or in the driveway to the Parks Dept on Rt 25A, or in the lot across from the firehouse, If they are going to choose to park anywhere such as these places for any periods of time (other than for a shift change), I fail to see why it is that the police are somehow unable or unwilling to inconspicuously stake out at any one of the known locations that people regularly blow through stop signs. After all, doing so would help them reach their monthly ticket quotas while also showing a presence that would only serve as a deterrent and help to make people think twice. But that would obviously make too much sense to do. Go figure.........
Aidan August 22, 2012 at 12:26 AM
Does 1st Ave have 300 cars per hour for 8 hrs and for the same 8 hours, Meadow have 200 cars per hour? If not, then trimming back the bushes will resolve the problem.
Aidan August 22, 2012 at 12:39 AM
You do not need a stop sign 160 feet from another stop sign. This can be resolved by prohibiting parking close to the intersection.
Aidan August 22, 2012 at 12:43 AM
It is illegal under state and federal law for a town to install a stop sign because people are speeding. Stop signs must meet very specific criteria for main road and side street traffic volumes set forth by the Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices (MUTCD). However, this has not stopped the town from pacifying people with illegal stop signs, resulting in people not stopping. Installing stop signs due to a perception of speeding results in disregard for the stop sign because there is almost no reason to stop.
Aidan August 22, 2012 at 12:59 AM
Stop sign criteria from the Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices which can be found at the link below. Many of the stop signs that are complained about are probably not in compliance with this, because it would mean most all way stops would be removed, with the stop sign remaining on the side street. It can be summarized as the main requirement is 300 vehicles per hour on the main road with 200 vehicles per hour on the side street, for the same 8 hours. http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/kno_2009r1r2.htm Section 2B.07 Multi-Way Stop Applications
Cynthia Grimley August 22, 2012 at 02:17 PM
We could use a STOP sign at the corner of West Drive and Marilyn. There is a bus stop there for the kids - and people drive way too fast down the block. One day - someone will get hurt!
Aidan August 22, 2012 at 11:21 PM
As long as there is a stop sign controlling traffic west on Marilyn, the intersection is controlled. Your request of a stop sign because people are driving too fast would result in an illegal stop sign because Marilyn is not busy enough to produce 200 vehicles per hour for 8 hours. Stop signs are not speed control devices.
Doug G August 23, 2012 at 01:07 AM
What we really need at the corner of Pulaski Rd and First Avenue is adequate street lighting. Heading NE it is a sharp right with no sidewalk for pedestrians.
bob iwanejko August 23, 2012 at 11:15 AM
did not see this story last week Aspen Rd. and Washington this is a 3 way intersection the North and South bound are optional even when there is a school bus there letting kids off with flashing red lights have called Cope only to get an answering machine

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