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Creighton: ‘The Roads in Smithtown Are a Disaster’

Creighton said repaving bond is needed for crumbling infrastructure.

Smithtown Councilman Robert Creighton thinks the roads in Smithtown are crumbling and plans to vote in favor of a $10 million bond to help get the town’s infrastructure back on track.

“The roads in Smithtown are a disaster,” said Creighton to members of the Kings Park Chamber of Commerce at Wednesday's meeting.

“Infrastructure in town is starting to crumble. You cannot allow the roads to slip away and the only way to fix that is through a bond,” he said.

Highway Superintendent bond, borrowing $5 million for 2012 and $5 million for 2013. The bond, if approved, would cost the average Smithtown homeowner an additional $1 a month in taxes, raising their taxes by approximately $12 a year for two years, according to Jorgensen.

According to councilman Ed Wehrheim, the bond would require a supermajority of four votes and does not need to go out for a public vote.

Town Supervisor, Patrick Vecchio, citing a $7.5 million highway budget and does not believe the town should borrow the money.

"We spend $7.5 million a year on road repairs, I really don't know how much more we can spend," Vecchio said.

"It is commendable for the supervisor to hold taxes to a minimum, but if we allow the roads to get worse than they are, according to Jorgensen, it will cost three times the amount to fix them," said Creighton.

Creighton said he has support on the bond from three board members.

"We need four votes and I am convinced we will get the fourth vote," he said.

Creighton said he expects an engineering report on the roadways this week. "Right after we get that, we intend to put it before the board for a vote," he said.

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Ken Grant May 21, 2012 at 05:43 pm
I have been a residnt of Smithtown for 35 yrs or so---the roads are in poor shape, but no worse than other towns on the island. Highway supervisor is seeking 10 Million Bond issue to fix roads---What happened to the NO Snow budget--or his working budgetThis is the first time that I can remember a Highway Super asking for funds to fix the roads. Use the funds available first---Then ask for more if needed.---Ken Grant
Bob Israel May 21, 2012 at 09:07 pm
As a resident of Kings Park for the last 4 decades I must say the roads are in the worst shape they have ever been in during that time. Help me to understand why where the money went. Why were we able to have acceptable roads in the past and not now?..Bob Israel
E Baum May 22, 2012 at 12:57 am
Glenn Jorgensen is an honest man who has worked at all levels in the highway department. He is also a tax payer. If he feels that we need to bond out the work, then I think we should do so. It seems that it will cost us more down the road if we wait. The saying is penny-wise and pound- foolish isn't it?
Free 2B Me May 22, 2012 at 10:21 am
What happened to all of the Obama money for infrastructure improvements?
Chris May 22, 2012 at 10:41 am
Mr. Jorgensen came to my house on a Saturday to discuss my concerns about the roads and curbs in Commack. I asked him about using the snow removal budget that was hardly touched this winter but he said that he is not authorized to use that money for other expenses. Mr. Jorgensen also lost money from his budget so that another town department could fix concrete sidewalks. Not only was that money not returned to his budget, but concrete sidewalks are now a line item on Mr. Jorgensen's budget. He inherited the 6,000 complaints about broken/uneven sidewalks but did not inherit the extra money to address the problems. This bond would give the Superintendent to boost that is needed to get ahead of the curve on road and curb repair. Right now we are behind the "8 Ball." If you want to see this bond pass with the 4 votes needed we need to convince all the Councilmen to vote YES!
KPLifer May 22, 2012 at 11:00 am
This is exactly what happens when cheap conservative republicans rule the roost. They collect taxes and distribute it the projects of their wealthy donors. It is time to get the old boys club out of office. Stop voting for folks that still act like it is 1960.
Let's get this bond and bring the roads of Smithtown to what they once were.
tom mooney May 22, 2012 at 11:05 am
Let's use the funds in a sound way from an engineering perspective and not do $10M of "patch & run" as we've been doing and watch the asphalt get washed down the catch basins.
WOODY11780 May 22, 2012 at 12:01 pm
DAN RYAN BURNED US.....THE TAXPAYERS LET ED LYNCH GO, WHILE HE WAS DOING A GREAT JOB.....SOMETIMES WE'RE OUR OWN WORST ENEMY......GLENN IS A VERY EXPERIENCED, & COMPETENT SUPT.....OVER 35 YEARS ON THE JOB....AFTER BEING THROWN UNDER THE BUS, HE KNOWS WHAT IS NEEDED.
WOODY11780 May 22, 2012 at 12:02 pm
SPENT IN HAWAII
Kathleen Uhl May 22, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Thank you to Mr. Creighton for sounding reasonable & supporting the improvement of our roads. He is willing to work with the Supervisor & Mr. Jorgensen towards what is fair & right in getting the job done properly. I for one appreciate that.
Darry Bilco May 22, 2012 at 02:36 pm
Creighton reasonable? Four years ago the previous Supt of Highways asked for the same bond issue and Creighton, Wehrheim, Vecchio, McCarthy all sat back and said the roads were NOT in terrible condition and that a bond was unnecessary with the budget the town board gives to the Highway. All of a sudden, the roads and infrastructure are terrible? Sorry, Bob ole boy, I am not buying your tale.
The problem is that for the past two DECADES Vecchio has used the Highway (and while he could, the Library) as a political tool to screw with the people in charge and to pretend he had taxes 'under control' for the average homeowner. Anyone who pays attention knows that the Supt has shortchanged accounts, transferred money to other lines to handcuff the Supt and then passed the buck. And Creighton stands by and says nothing. Seriously, Bob, go enjoy your retirement and stroll the boardwalk at Sunken Meadow. It's time to go to pasture.
Darry Bilco May 22, 2012 at 02:38 pm
The money in the snow budget can not be moved to the highway repair budget. Just like the highway repair budget can not be moved to the snow budget if necessary... but money CAN be moved out of the highway funds to pay for things in other departments if Vecchio, et al want to. And Jorgensen can not say a word about it. He can only spend the money as it is allocated, he can not make the decisions to transfer money. The Town Board has that authority.
stjamesBri May 22, 2012 at 03:47 pm
Creighton?? Is this the same Creighton whose wife is now suing businesses in Kings Park because she slipped on a bad sidewalk? A sidewalk the town should be responsible for?? It is. Wow, that's odd. Can you say conflict of interest???
Local May 22, 2012 at 04:07 pm
the town is not responsible for comercial sidewalks.
friarpride May 22, 2012 at 06:07 pm
Glad Mrs. Creighton is suing that landlord. That sidewalk has been buckled for years. Have tried to get something done myself but it of course is an out of town landlord. Saw her in church a week after this whole thing. She had two casts on her wrists and her shoulder in a sling. She is a private citizen and was hurt because of negligence No conflict of interest!!! Maybe something will finally get done around here.
littleShamrock May 22, 2012 at 06:48 pm
The street in front of my house was "lacquered" years ago and a block down the same day, yes someone decided to drive on it and cause a mess. It was fixed within hours .. but apparently putting lipstick on a pig doesn't work. I'm hoping they repave the side streets -- I couldn't imagine if we had a "real snow" this year to see what would have really happened!!
KPLifer May 22, 2012 at 06:50 pm
She sued "selective" building owners who will pass it down to the tenant through the lease agreement. The town clears the snow from the sidewalk, they have comparative negligence. is the town attorney also handling her case? The suit sounds like a typical "800" lawyer case
friarpride May 22, 2012 at 06:58 pm
Are you a landlord?You seem to know alot about the lawsuit. Unless you are relying on the Smithown News story. Notice they didnt show a picture of Mrs. Creighton with her casts and sling. Seems like KP is overrun by these out of town landlords who think its fine to leave the sidewalks in any old shape. Sit outside that bakery on a Sunday and see all the patrons walkingout adn stumbling. Lucky someone doesn;t crack their head or break a hip. That sidewalk has been that way for YEARS!!! About time someone did something!!!!!!
Kathleen Uhl May 22, 2012 at 07:05 pm
Somehow we got off the main subject here & it's the streets of Smithtown. I don't think it matters what was said way back when or what wasn't done way back when. What does matter is that they need to resolve it somehow NOW. What was said is said & what was not done was not done. Let's stay focused on what can be & hopefully will be done.
friarpride May 22, 2012 at 07:10 pm
Agreed Kathleen Uhl .Kings Park, St. James and Smithtown all need major road repairs, for appearance and for safety issues. Hoping the town finally does the right thing. Mr. Vecchio needs to loosen the purse strings a little and let the Highway guys do their job.
Kathleen Uhl May 22, 2012 at 07:25 pm
Hear Hear kpresiden999! I second that motion!
Local May 22, 2012 at 10:05 pm
are you sure the highway dept. clears the snow? i know they only do certain sections. they dont go in front of the old tanzi hardware( the building next to the fire dept.) or andersons deli, but they do clear main street from indian head to pulaski. do they cross over pulaski? i'm not sure, just asking.
A Concerned Resident May 23, 2012 at 02:29 am
I agree with Ken. Let's use the money we have first before asking for more. If there is a crack in the road or a pot hole, slow down. Rising taxes, whether school taxes, library taxes, property taxes, highway taxes, etc. are forcing people to move out of Smithtown. Enough with borrowing from future years. Let's stop raising taxes and take a breather.
A Concerned Resident May 23, 2012 at 02:31 am
The same thing that happened to all the other tax breaks and bailout money, we're not getting a penny of it.
Kathleen Uhl May 23, 2012 at 05:16 pm
Harsh hateful words! Is that really necessary? I can't believe that got approved to post. No wonder bullying is a problem in this country. There are other ways to voice your opinion besides calling people names & being offensive. I'm sorry but that is totally uncalled for.
Henry Powderly (Editor) May 23, 2012 at 06:27 pm
Please keep the conversation civil and refrain from making personal attacks. We will remove any posts that incude attacks and may suspend user accounts. Thank you.
A Concerned Resident May 24, 2012 at 12:50 am
My taxes just went up over $3,000 this year (I live in a typical development house in Smithtown near a hgh school) and my husband just got a job after being out of work for over one year. I cannot afford for anyone to "...loosen the purse strings...". Things are not the same as when the economy was healthy. If there are a few bumps in the roads then we have to live with them. If there is a pot hole then fill it. We cannot affrd he luxury of pretty roads right now. If there is something dangerous then by all means repair it.
Christopher D'Antonio May 24, 2012 at 01:47 am
The real tragedy of this roads budget is that it prevents Smithtown from doing anything to make the roads a more inclusive transportation resource, being that there is enough difficulty to simply maintain what we have. The town should be willing to embrace innovation in appropriate areas and at appropriate right of way widths by adding bicycle lanes in available shoulders and sidewalks where they are absent but needed.
friarpride May 24, 2012 at 01:55 pm
Think the Patch needs to monitor its users a bit more. Calling a senior citizen names because she got hurt on obviously hazardous sidewalk does show a certain hateful character. There seems to be alot of that going on in these Patch posts. I agree it is a form of bullying. Alot of tough guys with way too much to say on here. It is easy because they can say all the ugly things they want and never take responsibility. Please, Patch, stay on top of these people who have nothing intelligent to say and are only looking to hurt.
Local May 24, 2012 at 02:11 pm
@kpresiden999, i saw the post before it was removed. it was so uncalled for.
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